DEP Primeraman- Mentoring Update Thread

[Kilted Heathen]

I'll be linking up with a few Benning buddies tomorrow and I'll confirm/deny the RASP/OSUT deal.

As it stands, do NOT count on OSUT as your "gateway"...instances like that are rare.If they "troll" it will be at BAC and that is no guarantee either.

[IEDmagnet]

As it stands, do NOT count on OSUT as your "gateway"...instances like that are rare.If they "troll" it will be at BAC and that is no guarantee either.

In other words, David hound your recruiters.

[RH]

As it stands, do NOT count on OSUT as your "gateway"...instances like that are rare.If they "troll" it will be at BAC and that is no guarantee either.

Annnnnd...there it is.

[P-Chop]

88M1P.........probably going to one of the BCT's at Bragg. Might not be too hard to get into a line unit if you had the right drive and determination (and got in good with a 1SG or two). At least you wouldn't be a leg........

[Abntrucker]

88M1P.........probably going to one of the BCT's at Bragg. Might not be too hard to get into a line unit if you had the right drive and determination (and got in good with a 1SG or two). At least you wouldn't be a leg........

88m1p,,Your foot is in the door,,,the oppurtunities were abundant for me,,just sayin

[mphellon]

Take the option to get your foot in the door. 88m, if I'm not mistaken is still a shortage MOS, so promotion schedules should be good. Good luck, and God Speed........

[Primeraman]

As per Kilted Heathen's request I will be answering some question he asked about some of the information he is sending me to learn and become familiar with.

1. The Fire Team Wedge is the most commonly used movement formation in the Army because it allows the team to have a complete 360-degree security at all times. It also allows for equal distribution of personnel and weapons, while also providing good control.

2. The Fire Team Wedge uses three movement types:

1. Traveling-when contact is not likely.
2. Traveling Overwatch-when contact is possible.
3. Bounding Overwatch-when contact is expected.

3. There are five characteristics of a good rally point.

1. Easily defended for a short period of time.
2. Away from natural lines of drift.
3. Away from high-speed avenues of approach.
4. Provides good concealment and cover from both air and land.
5. Provides little or no tactical value for the enemy.

Questions answered, Sergeant.

[Kilted Heathen]

Well done.

Research Rogers Rangers and post his 'Standing Orders"

[IEDmagnet]

OFS!!! That is good stuff!

Edit: While you are completing that task, don't just remember and regurgitate them. Think about them in their original context, but also about how they still hold relevance TODAY.

[Primeraman]

1. Don't forget nothing.
2. Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.
3. When you're on the march, act the way you would if you was sneaking up on a deer. See the enemy first.
4. Tell the truth about what you see and what you do. There is an army depending on us for correct information. You can lie all you please when you tell other folks about the Rangers, but don't never lie to a Ranger or officer.
5. Don't never take a chance you don't have to.
6. When we're on the march we march single file, far enough apart so one shot can't go through two men.
7. If we strike swamps, or soft ground, we spread out abreast, so it's hard to track us.
8. When we march, we keep moving till dark, so as to give the enemy the least possible chance at us.
9. When we camp, half the party stays awake while the other half sleeps.
10. If we take prisoners, we keep 'em separate till we have had time to examine them, so they can't cook up a story between 'em.
11. Don't ever march home the same way. Take a different route so you won't be ambushed.
12. No matter whether we travel in big parties or little ones, each party has to keep a scout 20 yards ahead, 20 yards on each flank, and 20 yards in the rear so the main body can't be surprised and wiped out.
13. Every night you'll be told where to meet if surrounded by a superior force.
14. Don't sit down to eat without posting sentries.
15. Don't sleep beyond dawn. Dawn's when the French and Indians attack.
16. Don't cross a river by a regular ford.
17. If somebody's trailing you, make a circle, come back onto your own tracks, and ambush the folks that aim to ambush you.
18. Don't stand up when the enemy's coming against you. Kneel down, lie down, hide behind a tree.
19. Let the enemy come till he's almost close enough to touch, then let him have it and jump out and finish him up with your hatchet.

There is a version on Wikipedia and a couple others that is the modernized version of whats in use by the 75th Regiment that I will post next. I didn't know if you wanted this older one from a book or the actual modern day lingo.

[IEDmagnet]

Those are the ones, and they're still good orders.

Speaking of orders. One you don't have to rush on, but the Army's General Orders and Core Values. Figure out what they are and understand them completely. Any questions, just ask.

[Bell]

Pay attention. Don't just do the lesson. Learn it. What you are being asked to do has more meaning in it than you can comprehend right now. These "lessons" are teaching you how to think "Army".

[Primeraman]

Sorry guys, had to go out of town for my cousin's graduation. The General Orders and Core Values are in my guide that they gave me after signing my contract at MEPS. I've been trying to memorize them and really understand them.

General Orders

I will guard everything within the limits of my post and quit my post only when properly relieved.

I will obey my special orders and perform all of my duties in a military manner.

I will report violations of my special orders, emergencies, and anything not covered in my instructions to the commander of the relief.

Core Values

Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage.


Mike, I called you on Friday but haven't heard back from you. Everything okay down there? Give me a call and we will chat.

[IEDmagnet]

Shit, I forgot. Had an "interesting" team event that day when you called me. I'll call you tomorrow when I get a chance.

Just as an aside, that Army acronyms and stuff thing we discussed, the core values spell LDRSHIP (leadership). Just food for thought.

[Jeff82]

IED, you are never wrong! You were otherwise engaged. Primeraman, you called at the wrong time and failed to make a backup call!!

Got it?!

(Primeraman, understand this relationship dynamic. It will carry you far.)