skipping heart

[kenlavine1]

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[Rocket1972]

Great news brother but like you said, keep and go to the appointment. You don't want to end up looking like OPSNCO now do you?

[Ferret_LE426]

Dude I have had the same thing happen I am scheduled for a cardiologist as my family has a history of heart taking the long nap.

[LadyDoc]

Magnesium oxide 250mg fixed my ticker.

It was really bugging me yesterday so I went back on the internet and read that a potasium or magnesium deficiency can mess up your nervous/electrical system It can cause muscle twitching and PVC'c (skipping heart) among other things. I took one pill yesterday and another before I went to bed. By the time I fell asleep they became much less frequent and so far today it seems to have completely stopped.

Apparently if you excersise frequently you lose the magnesium through sweating. If you dont eat the right foods it starts to deplete and I never drink gatorade or any other electrolyte replacement drinks. I guess plain water isn't enough anymore.

I'm still going to the doc on friday, but at least I don't feel like I'm gonna drop dead.

*Heavy sigh*
Home "fixing" your heart via the internet? Really???

It was "really bugging you", yet you went to the internet instead of going immediately for an EKG and/or holter monitor? If your total body magnesium level was low enough to be causing a cardiac rhythm disturbance, you would be in deep do-doo and have other symptoms besides.

Stop F-ing around trying to self-diagnose.

Here's my internet prescription for you: Have your wife and child kick you repeatedly in the head until you go to have an EKG and a thorough exam.

Men! Gahhhhhhh!

[LadyDoc]

So...? It's Friday. What did your doc say? You did go, right?

[AbnJack]

Have a cigarette and relax.

[SGT G]

Don't be a hero. Go see the doc and get them to give you a once over. Better safe than.... Well, better safe!

[kenlavine1]

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[K.M.I.A]

Have a cigarette and relax.

My thoughts exactly, my first heart attack I was at work. Started to feel like shit, thought I had pneumonia again drove my self to the hospital parked way out in the parking lot. Walking across the parking lot smoking cigarettes, fucking chest just fucking killing me. Get to the ER Doc tells me sir your having a heart attack. I respond your fucking kidding me, the Doc says sir we don't fucking kid about heart attacks. A week later two more attacks I'm still here.

[kenlavine1]

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[VoTrooper99]

The funny thing is that a DOCTOR is the profession most likely to die from a first heart attack.

It's because they self diagnose and dismiss the heart problem as angina or some other muscular issue.

[DOC]

I am late here I know, way too many hours in school and on the truck. If it happens again call an ambulance to transport you to the ER, they will do the blood work right there and probably have you see a cardiologist as a consult while there. If it is an electrolyte imbalance the chance of a fatal dysrhythmia is VERY high. The heart mainly needs calcium, potassium, and sodium to work and has a very small range before it goes haywire. A heart attack is only one of a few ways to die from heart problems, sometime the only indicator of a heart attack is a change in the EKG that shows a Q wave from damaged heart muscle since there are many incidents of silent heart attacks, no chest pain.

You mentioned PVCs, these are usually nothing to be worried about but, can be triggered from a area of the heart muscle that is irritated, eventualy the muscle will be irritated enough that all beats will be PVCs or Ventricular Tachycardia. Technically, according to the american heart association's ACLS course three PVCs in a row is Ventricular Tachycardia, a life threatening dysrhytmia. When you feel that heart skip there is a good chance there is a PVC, or it could be a pre atrial contraction, pre junctional contraction, a sinus block, sinus pause, run of 2nd degree heart block type II, or type I, atrial fibrillation that has bardycardia associated with it. Point is any and all of these dysrhytmias have the potential to kill you and waiting for a family Dr to get off of their ass and "schedule" blood work could kill you. With any of the early contractions of the heart there is usually a compensatory pause, that coupled with the early beat not pumping blood is why you feel a skip. If PVCs become frequent enough or early enough following a regular beat there can be what is called R on T phenomonon which is followed by Ventricular Fibrillation, unless you have a defibrilator that can be applied and used within 4 min you will probably not make it. Another potential problem is a number of fast or "tachy" dysrhythmias that the electrical rates is much faster than the mechanical part of the heart can tolerate. With these you make think your skipping beats but the electrical side is working and the mechanical or muscle is not following along with it.

Most EMS services, if Paramedic level, have 12 lead EKGs on the truck. We sit around and talk about the ones that should have called us earlier and they would be here, do not be that person call an ambulance when you notice something wrong. That 5-10 min it takes an ambulance to arrive makes the odds of suvival very low if you go into cardiac arrest. Almost all of us can diagnose and treat the lethal dysrhythmias and give you a chance. We carry almost all emergency drugs to keep you out of cardiac arrest when a pt experiences a lethal dysrhythmia. The success of cardiac arrest survival is not good statistic at all, most likely if it comes to that your best outcome is living a few weeks on a ventilator while the heart finishes dying. The brain does not like no oxygen for more than a couple of minutes and damage to it is irreversable.

There are so many variables and so many things that have to function properly for the heart to pump blood that it is imposible to begin to say this or that could be causing your problem. I will tell you what I tell all my patients that want to refuse service or transport, PUTTING THIS OFF MAY KILL YOU.

[kenlavine1]

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[DOC]

Thanks for the detailed response. I take rehydration after running more seriously now. I was always of the school that water was all you need and you get everything else from what you eat. My stress level didn't help either. It has not happened once since I started taking the mag last monday. It went from a skip every 2 minutes to nothing in 8 hours after taking a magnesium tab and washing it down with a bottle of gatorade. When I go back for my blood work I'll get my doc to schedule an EKG.

If he did not do an EKG you need to seriously think about a new Dr...

Gatorade and all the other sports drinks are good in moderation. We saw some complications from them in Iraq, mainly kidney stones. Your thinking about water is actually good. One question, what suppliments do you take?

[kenlavine1]

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