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    Paychecks from private business shrank to their smallest share of personal income in U.S. history during the first quarter of this year, a USA TODAY analysis of government data finds.

    At the same time, government-provided benefits — from Social Security, unemployment insurance, food stamps and other programs — rose to a record high during the first three months of 2010.

    Those records reflect a long-term trend accelerated by the recession and the federal stimulus program to counteract the downturn. The result is a major shift in the source of personal income from private wages to government programs.

    The trend is not sustainable, says University of Michigan economist Donald Grimes. Reason: The federal government depends on private wages to generate income taxes to pay for its ever-more-expensive programs. Government-generated income is taxed at lower rates or not at all, he says. "This is really important," Grimes says.

    The recession has erased 8 million private jobs. Even before the downturn, private wages were eroding because of the substitution of health and pension benefits for taxable salaries.

    The Bureau of Economic Analysis reports that individuals received income from all sources — wages, investments, food stamps, etc. — at a $12.2 trillion annual rate in the first quarter.

    Key shifts in income this year:

    • Private wages. A record-low 41.9% of the nation's personal income came from private wages and salaries in the first quarter, down from 44.6% when the recession began in December 2007.

    •Government benefits. Individuals got 17.9% of their income from government programs in the first quarter, up from 14.2% when the recession started. Programs for the elderly, the poor and the unemployed all grew in cost and importance. An additional 9.8% of personal income was paid as wages to government employees.

    The shift in incomeshows that the federal government's stimulus efforts have been effective, says Paul Van de Water, an economist at the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

    "It's the system working as it should," Van de Water says. Government is stimulating growth and helping people in need, he says. As the economy recovers, private wages will rebound, he says.

    Economist Veronique de Rugy of the free-market Mercatus Center at George Mason University says the riots in Greece over cutting benefits to close a huge budget deficit are a warning about unsustainable income programs.

    Economist David Henderson of the conservative Hoover Institution says a shift from private wages to government benefits saps the economy of dynamism. "People are paid for being rather than for producing," he says.
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    The question- What is the last day that Barack Obama has to make ANY pretense of not being an extreme leftist?

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    Default Re: Private pay shrinks to historic lows- Gov't benefits at all-time high.

    And the redistribution of wealth truly begins...Gotta love the entitlement class
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    Default Re: Private pay shrinks to historic lows- Gov't benefits at all-time high.

    Well the one Gov benefit that did not go up this years was veterans benefits for disable vets. No Cola for us that should tell you something about POTUS feelings for the troops and Vets?
    “Cowards fled to the north to avoid service only to be welcomed back with full immunity, while those that served were scorned for their honorable service, go figure?”
    The above has come to be known as “Jane Fonda Traitor Syndrome” AKA Carters Follies, “Thou shalt honor thy cowards and deplore the virtues of honorable men.” Jimmy the Peanut Farmer Carter by D. W. aka Herd1970 in the year of our Lord 2010

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    Default Re: Private pay shrinks to historic lows- Gov't benefits at all-time high.

    Never thought I would be thankful to work for the gubment.
    Hope that shit rebounds.
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    Default Re: Private pay shrinks to historic lows- Gov't benefits at all-time high.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feetasshead View Post
    Never thought I would be thankful to work for the gubment.
    Hope that shit rebounds.
    LEOs are one of the few correct functions of government out there.

    IMO, you guys deserve every penny and then some.
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    MrGreen Re: Private pay shrinks to historic lows- Gov't benefits at all-time high.

    They get more than I did when I was an E-1........

    I thought this was PRIVATE (PVT) pay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharliePC View Post
    LEOs are one of the few correct functions of government out there.

    IMO, you guys deserve every penny and then some.
    Stop brown nosing, chances are they'll still give you a ticket just for being ugly
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    Default Re: Private pay shrinks to historic lows- Gov't benefits at all-time high.

    Quote Originally Posted by VB View Post
    Stop brown nosing, chances are they'll still give you a ticket just for being ugly
    The voice of experience??
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    Default Re: Private pay shrinks to historic lows- Gov't benefits at all-time high.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hendo View Post
    They get more than I did when I was an E-1........

    I thought this was PRIVATE (PVT) pay!
    Me too


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    Default Re: Private pay shrinks to historic lows- Gov't benefits at all-time high.

    Quote Originally Posted by CharliePC View Post
    LEOs are one of the few correct functions of government out there.

    IMO, you guys deserve every penny and then some.
    Yes I can agree I do more for public safety and welfare than the average cubicle monkey. The biggest hazard most gubment employees face is on their drive in or from their jobsite. I could meet my maker at any point in the 10 hours of my daily shift.

    LE is under the Executive Branch, unfortunately we know what folks are in charge of that but hey it could be worse, I could be in the Legislative Branch and be a total waste of DNA.
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