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    Doctor is brusque. Patient complains. Doctor fires back.

    I think I like this guy...

    RALEIGH Dr. Earl Sunderhaus, an Asheville eye doctor, has what might charitably be described as a brusque bedside manner.


    That much is not in dispute.


    But the N.C. Medical Board may decide Sunderhaus overstepped the bounds of decency when he recently told a patient she was irresponsible for being unemployed, on Medicaid, and relying on taxpayers to cover another pregnancy after giving birth less than a year earlier.
    What really galled her, the patient complained, is that Sunderhaus poked her thigh and told her she is fat.


    "When I got home I was very upset about the way I was treated by him," the patient wrote in a private complaint to the board. Efforts to contact the patient were not successful.


    Sunderhaus, who describes himself as a plainspoken old German, escalated the conflict by later writing the patient to drive home his points using numbered paragraphs, signed "sincerely."


    Then he fired off opinionated missives to the board, which called him to Raleigh on Thursday for a closed-door meeting.


    Sunderhaus' point - that doctors need to advise patients to lose weight, because obesity is not just a personal issue, it's a $147 billion public health crisis - may have gotten lost in the delivery.


    The board, which licenses and disciplines doctors, has not decided whether to charge Sunderhaus over the patient's complaint. The worst that could happen is he'd lose his license.


    Most problems arising from an insensitive comment are handled with a quiet tut-tut by the board - perhaps a recommendation that the practitioner take a refresher course in effective doctor-patient communication, said Jean Fisher Brinkley, the board's spokeswoman.


    Usually, doctors appreciate the confidentiality.


    Sunderhaus, by contrast, stormed the beaches to defend his honor.
    Defiant in face of criticism


    He wrote Gov. Bev Perdue, saying the patient's "irresponsible orgasm" resulted in children whose medical care is provided by Medicaid.
    He fired off numerous letters to the medical board, noting that its rules make him nauseous and, among other things, that "the biggest hoax on mankind" is the Drug Enforcement Administration.


    And Sunderhaus notified The (Raleigh) News & Observer that he was about to be "screwed" by the medical board, admitting he told the patient that thick eyeglasses would not cause her to go blind, "but her thick thighs and diabetes would."


    "I poked her thigh to emphasize that diabetes is the leading cause of blindness," he said Thursday. "People have got to accept criticism without getting their bowels in an uproar."


    Sunderhaus, a trim man who appeared before the board wearing cargo pants and sporting a backpack, makes no apologies for his actions. He blew off a psychiatric test the board arranged, and flouted protocol by talking about his case, which the board likes to keep secret.


    At the end of a conversation with this reporter, Sunderhaus offered $20 for her efforts. She returned it, but not before he tucked it in her sweater.


    After 30 years of practice, Sunderhaus said, he is prepared to take whatever discipline the board issues, even the loss of his license.


    "I'm 77," he said. "I can tell them to stick the darn thing."
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    Re: Doctor is brusque. Patient complains. Doctor fires back.

    I've had a doctor speak plainly to me before (he was a former Medical Officer and knew I was a paratrooper). I appreciated it. Who better to make any kind of judgment call than someone who knows your medical history? If someone doesn't like the way they're addressed by a doctor, then go find another doctor.

    If they think harsh words are bad, wait until Healthcare gets here and they start getting a rationed share of shitty treatment on top of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yrualeg View Post
    That's for the "irresponsible orgasm" comment, isn't it?
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    Re: Doctor is brusque. Patient complains. Doctor fires back.

    At least he tells it like it is and all.

    You know what I hate? When I get health tips from FAT DOCTORS!!!

    Drives me fucking crazy.


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    More power to him for telling it like it is.
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    Re: Doctor is brusque. Patient complains. Doctor fires back.

    Quote Originally Posted by VoTrooper99 View Post
    At least he tells it like it is and all.

    You know what I hate? When I get health tips from FAT DOCTORS!!!

    Drives me fucking crazy.
    I had that happen . I am 20 lbs. overweight and the DR at the VA told me that I should lose weight . I looked at his FAT body and asked "Why". He was upset and said "Well , I'm running around the country saving lives and am FORCED to eat a lot of junk food." To add to his fucking bullshit I must add that he was a Medical Doctor AND a fucking lawyer . Even the Surgeon General is a LARD ASS !!!!!
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    Re: Doctor is brusque. Patient complains. Doctor fires back.

    I think I like this guy too.
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    Re: Doctor is brusque. Patient complains. Doctor fires back.

    I want to be his patient, nothing drives me crazier that Dr. speak

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    Re: Doctor is brusque. Patient complains. Doctor fires back.

    "Irresponsible Orgasm" too funny...
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    Re: Doctor is brusque. Patient complains. Doctor fires back.

    There are times I really, really wish I could say stuff like this guy did. Especially so in situations where those who are on public assistance, and who don't pay me a dime, talk to me like I'm the chick at the fast food drive-up window. Sometimes it's really hard to be nice in front of the kids.

    As far as obesity goes, the next generation is already in the chute. You know we are in trouble as a society when you see two yr olds with man-boobs and no neck.


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    Re: Doctor is brusque. Patient complains. Doctor fires back.

    I second that, LadyDoc. When I was in a Family Practice in rural Kansas, we had a pt. called the "Load Leveller". No one knew how large she was, as she did nothing but ride around in a '60s era Caddy that listed to her side.That is, until one of the Docs took her to the cattle sale barn to weigh her. The sign over the scale lit up with the message ,"only one cow at a time, please!" It was over 600# as I remember.
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