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    A friend of mine sent me this message.

    Read this message from our SMA about the authorized boots for wear with the
    ACU. Photographs are attached. Disseminate this message as you deem
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    CSM Daniel Chavez


    Leaders Book Note - Boots

    Leaders,

    In this edition of my leader book notes I would like to inform leaders of
    the authorized and unauthorized Commercial-Of-The-Shelf (COTS) and Army
    issued boots for wear with the ACUs.

    There has been misunderstanding with the ALARACT Message 140/2007 with
    leaders in interpreting which COTS boots are authorized and which are not.
    My intent is to add clarity to the ALARACT message giving leaders a better
    understanding of which boots are authorized for wear and why.

    With regard to pure COTS items, Program Executive Office (PEO) Soldier and
    U.S. Army Natick Soldier Research, Development and Engineering Center
    (NSRDEC) do not have a "certification" process for boots. AR 670-1 and
    ALARACT messages provide guidance on what approved standards industry uses
    to manufacturer boots that are authorized for wear. This includes what
    material requirements have to be met to ensure boots meet the durability and
    performance requirements for Soldiers. These guidelines provide the
    aesthetic requirements to ensure any authorized items maintain uniform
    standards for our Soldiers.

    The Army authorizes COTS boots as long as they are between 8 to 10 inches in
    height and made of tan rough side out cattlehide leather, with a plain toe,
    and with a soling system similar in color to the tan upper materials. The
    soling materials cannot exceed two inches in height, when measured from the
    bottom of the outsole, and can not extend up the back of the heel of the
    boot or over the top of the toe (See attached pictures). The exterior
    of
    the upper boot can not contain mesh but must be constructed of all leather
    or a combination of leather and non-mesh fabric. Boots with metal or plastic
    cleats in the bottom of the soles and sewn-in or laced-in zippers or velcro
    inserts are not authorized (See attached pictures). There are other
    leathers, such as pigskin, that do not meet the performance criteria of
    cattlehide. Cattlehide leather is more durable, and provides better
    performance in combat over pigskin.
    Soldiers should be aware that some companies sell

    "Warrior Leather" which is a common-use name for pigskin leather. Rubber and
    polyether polyurethane are the only outsole materials authorized.
    Rubber and polyether polyurethane are the only outsole materials that
    currently meet the need for durability and traction on surfaces in multiple
    environments and temperature ranges. Other materials, which may be of a
    lighter weight, do not meet Soldiers performance standards.

    There are many COTS items available that meet the aesthetic guidelines.
    Some examples of these items include, but are not limited to, the Belleville
    Model 390, the 8-inch Danner Desert TFX, the 8-inch Oakley S.I. Assault Boot
    as well as many other more traditional Army tan combat boot styles (See
    attached pictures). The purpose of listing these items here is to give
    examples of styles that fall within the guidelines and authorization as
    optional to wear.


    PEO Soldier and NSRDEC establish high quality standards for both the end
    items and component materials going into our combat boots. Current Army
    footwear is designed to be durable and provide the functionality needed by
    Soldiers in current and potential future operational environments.
    This process ensures that Soldiers have functional boots (the NSN ones) to
    accomplish their mission.

    PEO Soldier and NSRDEC maintain a close relationship with the footwear
    buyers at AAFES to ensure they are not buying anything for MCSS that does
    not meet the Army Uniform requirements. If AAFES has an interest in selling
    a specific COTS boot in MCSS, they forward PEO Soldier and NSRDEC a pair of
    the specified boots. PEO Soldier and NSRDEC provide the AAFES footwear
    buyers feedback if the boots do or do not meet Army requirements. Our
    Military Clothing Sales Stores stock items that are authorized for wear by
    other services, whose mission requirements are different than ours. Because
    of these different mission requirements not all boots carried in our MCSSs
    are authorized for wear by our Soldiers.

    The individual Soldier is responsible for buying authorized boots that meet
    Army requirements. Leaders have the responsibility of ensuring optional
    footwear meets Army requirements. AR 670-1, Appendix E requires all Soldiers
    to have one pair of each of the Clothing Initial Issue
    (CII) Bag item boots.
    This requirement includes both the Army Combat Boot (Hot Weather) and the
    Army Combat Boot (Temperate Weather). Any optional footwear discussed above
    that unit commanders authorize does not relieve Soldiers of their
    requirement to possess one pair of each of CII boots.

    The Army develops and issues Soldiers the best equipment available for
    accomplishment of their mission COTS items provide a different aesthetic
    look compared to the NSN footwear and/or contain material components that
    were selected for business reasons and not always aimed at improved
    performance.

    The attached slides provide examples of authorized and unauthorized boots.
    These slides do not endorse these individual companies but provide leaders a
    method of verifying authorized boots for wear. Currently there are hundreds
    of companies producing desert tan boots.

    Leaders, let's make sure our Soldiers are wearing the proper boots. Army
    Strong! HOOAH!
    SMA
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    So wait a tic...

    zippers and velcro are OK for the ACU uniform, but not for boots?

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    Hey now dont shoot the messenger. I was thinking the same thing as I read through it.


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    They'll rue the day they DX'd the green jungle boot! Rue, I say!
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    Is that a frickin' tan Corcoran boot I see???

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAL View Post
    Is that a frickin' tan Corcoran boot I see???

    Ya, probably the only people who will wear it with a field uniform will be legs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedFalcon View Post
    They'll rue the day they DX'd the green jungle boot! Rue, I say!
    Those were outstanding boots...

    I broke quite a few pair in, myself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerhunt View Post
    Those were outstanding boots...

    I broke quite a few pair in, myself!
    I still have the last pair I wore in uniform.
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    Some of those on page three look like hip-hoppin nike shit.

    And how the fuck are you supposed to shine ANY of those? What did I miss in the last 15 years? Our joes ain't shining their jumpers no more?

    What the fuck is next? Wrinkly-ass uniforms?

    Godammit, I got old when I wasn't looking.

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    Holy Shit......What are they doing? DX'ing the Green/black Jungle boot? Will this travesty never end?
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    We just got briefed on that yesterday. Please note that the last of the 3 pages is UNauthorized boots.

    Quote Originally Posted by bgermain View Post
    What the fuck is next? Wrinkly-ass uniforms?
    You do know you're not suposed to Iron ACUs right?

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    Ahhh, yes... They snuck that "un" right by me.

    Yeah, I know all about "not ironing" your shit. :-)

    We had one guy who mixed a little bit of Elmer's wood glue into a spray bottle full of water and then used it as his homemade starch. I have to admit, it worked pretty damn good.

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    I always had Ms Kim starch my stuff.......

    And in 5 years when we have to starch ACU's...I will gladly take them to her once again........

    The boots dilemma is crazy.....why care what boots are worn...?
    Joe's feet are his life....
    All this work was done to enhance the uniform but then they expect him to wear worthless boots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by airbrnebkr View Post
    Ya, probably the only people who will wear it with a field uniform will be legs.
    I've seen two soldier wear them. A 79R (recruiter) and a PA Nat'l Guardsman...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAL View Post
    Is that a frickin' tan Corcoran boot I see???
    Yep...could ya see that with class A

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