John McCain

[Texacon]

Out of the 3 candidates which one has actually served?

KC

[rangeroffspr]

Out of the 3 candidates which one has actually served?

KC

Using that logic, would you have voted for Kerry?

[rangeroffspr]

Then don't vote for McCain. From the perspective of our military and economic growth, he's no better than the Democrats and probably worse (based on his voting record).

Huckabee has my vote. This is why: http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAct...ew&Issue_id=20

Ron Paul is a nutjob: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/wa...foreign-policy

And McCain..........yeah.

If it comes down to voting for McCain or a liberal, I'll have to bite the bullet and vote for him, though. Never, EVER will I vote for a Clinton, and Obama's not yet wearing big boy panties. I've no faith in him whatsoever, and his liberal rhetoric nauseates me.

[Scotth]

A lot of conservatives see McCain as too moderate and apt to equivocate. They also see him as symptomatic of what is going wrong with the GOP.

The reason Republican's are in disarray is because of the Bush Administration and the failure to live up to it's own ideals.

DHS/TSA - 2 new big government bureaucracy
Prescription Health Plan- Biggest entitlement/corporate welfare plan in nearly half century
Uncontrolled Spending- Isn't shrinking government
Massive Debt- Probably be about 4 trillion new debt from Bush Budgets. Tax cuts without corresponding decreases in spending is not conservative.
Social Conservatives- Are as much about big government as the most liberal Democrat. They may have different agendas they are both all about government telling us how to live are lives.

The reason why McCain is doing so well is people are sick of the fighting in Washington and want compromise and they see McCain as a positive.

Like the Democrat's learned in the 90's with the gun control argument, immigration is not a winning election issue. When you ask someone if they think we should secure the borders they are going to say yes just like if you ask most people if they think someone needs an AK in the home they will say no. But neither person goes into the booth and votes solely on that issue. That's why you don't see the Democratic party making it an issue. Individuals may make issues about gun control but the party rarely says anything about the issue. Even more important with immigration the vast majority of people doesn't see the the hardliners solution as reasonable with any chance of success.

Iraq is killing the party as well. There is no plan to win or leave. Without a plan to win the vast majority of American are going to accept a plan to leave. The only plan being articulated is more of the same and unfortunately with Bush's creditability at nearly nil even good news is not really believed.

[Psycho7]

Hey don't forget about the monkey.

[Scotth]

Hey don't forget about the monkey.

Well what's the monkeys name, I would hate to waste a write in vote for the wrong monkey

[angelonwheels]

I'd have to agree with the majority here. with not much choice in the matter, I'd vote for McCain over Hillary or Obama anyday. for me, he is the much lesser of all the evils. The two on the dem side say they will pull our troops out within 100 days of being in office. McCain has been a pretty staunch supporter of the war in Iraq. although not so much of the interrogation techniques. But at least he wont pull our guys out and make all those sacrifices to be in vain. I talk to too many troops every day to see them pulled out now. they've even been saying they can't leave now or all of this would be in vain. and that would piss them off. Just my 2 cents worth.

[Texacon]

Using that logic, would you have voted for Kerry?

Kerry who?








In all seriousness I would never vote for Kerry. I appreciate what service he gave to his country. How honorable that was is up for debate. What he did when he returned was reprehensible but I will/would fight to my death to defend his right to do it.

BUT Kerry was running against another vet so it was a non issue.

KC

[Greenhat]

No matter who we vote for in the November election we are voting for a Democrat. I will give you that much BUT you can not tell me you can vote for Billary or Obama ...... What did Clintoon the worst do to the military?

KC

Hell, I was in the military while Carter was President. I've seen worse than Clinton in the White House.

I damn well will not vote for someone who turned his back on his brothers, who broke the faith of the brotherhood of arms. I will not be involved in rewarding him for that. Ever.

John McCain was THE POW on the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA. And, in fact, he and John Kerry did most of the work on that committee.

Now, it's real simple. The job of that committee was to determine if POWs were left behind (and they determined that they were) and recommend an action plan (and they recommended forgetting about them).

McCain was the POW on that committee. Those were his brothers that he recommended forgetting about. Not Reagan's, or Bush's, or Nixon's. McCain's. He broke the faith. Didn't complain about it, didn't object.

Would you expect one of your squadmates to recommend forgetting about you? Would you forgive it?

Part of the Ranger Creed is: "Never Shall I Fail My Comrades". I'm not a Ranger, I don't need to be. That comment applies to every honorable man or woman who has worn the uniform. But John McCain doesn't think it applies to him, obviously. He failed his comrades. Turned his back on them. He broke the faith, the brotherhood.

We, on this site, never forget our brothers who have shared the experience of being Paratroopers. I've seen people here reach out to help others half a continent away. I know some come here to stay in touch with their brothers, to help stay sane. That is our brotherhood, and we don't tolerate those who disrespect it.

So why do we tolerate a man who turned his back on his brothers? Who recommended forgetting about them?

[Greenhat]

Out of the 3 candidates which one has actually served?

KC

I take it you would have voted for General McClellan over Abe Lincoln.
Voted for Wendell Wilkie over FDR.
Voted for Burr over Jefferson.

[Loathe]

I take it you would have voted for General McClellan over Abe Lincoln.
Voted for Wendell Wilkie over FDR.
Voted for Burr over Jefferson.

I would have voted for a pencil over Lincoln. Or a monkey, hell even a woman :)

Worst president we ever had, destroyed states rights which in turn essentially destroyed individual liberties in this nation giving us this disgusting central government we all rail against today.

Him and later FDR put us where we are.

[Greenhat]

Worst president we ever had, destroyed states rights which in turn essentially destroyed individual liberties in this nation giving us this disgusting central government we all rail against today.

John C. Calhoun and Southern Democrats destroyed states rights when they refused to allow States to choose to be free or slave.

Read The Rise of American Democracy; Jefferson to Lincoln

[yrualeg]

John C. Calhoun and Southern Democrats destroyed states rights when they refused to allow States to choose to be free or slave.

Read The Rise of American Democracy; Jefferson to Lincoln

Another Great book was "The South was right" great at how they point out how the war actually started and contrary to popular belief it was not slavery...if it was really the major issue why did Lincoln wait until 3 year into the war to make the Emancipation Proclamation and did you know it only freed the slaves in the South, The ones that Lincoln had no control over...I was very surprised to find this out.

Here is a link to the books

Kennedy Twins.com

[Texacon]

Greenhat, I cannot afford Obama or Clinton. I cannot let them wash away my rights. Both of these candidates are doing nothing more than buying votes.

A democracy can not survive when the have nots (or those who THINK they are have nots) figure out they can vote themselves money from the haves (or those they THINK are haves). This is what is going to destroy our nation.

Nationalized health care is nothing more than a ploy which will cost us Billions of dollars.

Neither Democrat running believes you or I have a right to own a firearm.

None of our choices are good but there is no way I can vote for Obama or Clinton.

KC

[Greenhat]

Maybe you haven't noticed, Texacon, but Presidents don't pass legislation. National health care will only happen if the Congress passes it. And in that case, it will happen regardless of McCain or Clinton being in office (because McCain won't veto it). Nor does the President pass Gun Control Legislation.

The President of the United States is the Commander in Chief and the Head of State. He represents the USA to other nations. Do you really want a CinC who turned his back on his brothers? Is that the sort of representative you want representing us to other nations? One that sold his brothers down the river for the sake of political expediency?